Wikidata:Property proposal/SELL rating
SELL rating
[edit]Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Creative work
| Description | classification in the Syndicat des éditeurs de logiciels de loisirs rating system |
|---|---|
| Represents | SELL rating category (Q139502729) |
| Issued by | SELL (Q3508314) |
| Data type | Item |
| Example 1 | Donkey Kong 64 (Q774773)→All ages (Q139503030) |
| Example 2 | Advance Wars (Q953229)→Not recommended for children under 12 (Q139503105) |
| Example 3 | Conker's Bad Fur Day (Q841712)→Not recommended for children under 16 (Q139503191) |
| Example 4 | Resident Evil 2 (Q733992)→Prohibited for children under 18 (Q139503260) |
| Source | https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/n64/191702-donkey-kong-64/boxes/15866, https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/gba/471043-advance-wars/boxes/20190, https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/n64/196973-conkers-bad-fur-day/boxes/17378, https://www.mobygames.com/game/3714/resident-evil-2/cover/group-21940/cover-54495/ - only sources available unfortunately |
Motivation
[edit]From June 1999 until the arrival in 2003 of Pan European Game Information (Q192916), the SELL (Q3508314) rated the content of video games in France. Jean-Fred (talk) 08:45, 24 April 2026 (UTC)
Discussion
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Notified participants of WikiProject Video games by Useless Niamh (talk) 18:37, 23 April 2026 (UTC)- Comment Where are those ratings sourced from? Matthias M. (talk) 19:12, 23 April 2026 (UTC)
- Yes, this is somewhat tough, as there is no database I know of of SELL ratings. Relying on box-arts is not ideal. However, based on what I could find just now:
- some third-party databases will have that information ; for example Nintendo64EVER (Q109589665) has it ; see eg https://www.nintendo64ever.com/Nintendo-64-Game-Data-Sheet,4,_.html. There might not be many others − some DBs seem to only display PEGI (which I assume was remapped / retroactively assigned) − for example Planète-Aventure uses the PEGI-16 logo for De Sang Froid, whose boxart makes it clear it was Déconseillé aux moins de 16 ans ; Gamekult states that Donkey Kong 64 is PEGI 3, but PEGI did not exist back then. So, probably a bit hit and miss
- some magazines mention it. Searching through http://retromagazinesearch.uliege.be, I found some traces in Gen4 (Q3100340) (example 1, example 2), Kids Mania (example), PlayGuide. Astuces mania (example) Not much, but that should do it. Jean-Fred (talk) 09:38, 24 April 2026 (UTC)
- What, you think the box art is lying? Trade (talk) 20:22, 28 April 2026 (UTC)
- Not lying per se, but:
- box-arts are primary sources, and I prefer to use secondary sources whenever possible.
- box-arts as uploaded to say GameFAQs or MobyGames are essentially user-generated content, and in theory there’s no guarantee the user did not doctor the box-art (in practice, I don’t really buy that myself either :) Box-arts as uploaded to Canonical Specialized Platform Fan Database ranks higher in my book though (because presumably it’s mostly done by a group of trusted "expert" editors)
- I’m not sure we can count on always finding box-arts − when searching for examples, even for fairly "blockbusters" that came to mind, I could not necessarily find on the Internet the back-cover of the French release where the SELL rating would be − it’s somewhat niche after all.
- Just some personal thoughts, none of which are dealbreakers ; but I’ll stand by my "not ideal" :) Jean-Fred (talk) 13:31, 7 May 2026 (UTC)
- Not lying per se, but:
- Yes, this is somewhat tough, as there is no database I know of of SELL ratings. Relying on box-arts is not ideal. However, based on what I could find just now:
Support Pfew, ça ne nous rajeunit pas! But yes, SELL ratings are in scope just like PEGI or any other rating systems we have. Thanks for proposing! Jean-Fred (talk) 08:45, 24 April 2026 (UTC)- Support ―Applsdev (talk) (contribs) 15:55, 25 April 2026 (UTC)
- Support sounds official. Matthias M. (talk) 14:04, 2 May 2026 (UTC)
- @Jean-Frédéric, Useless Niamh, Matthias M., Trade, Applsdev:
Done as SELL rating (P14425). Yirba (talk) 19:05, 12 May 2026 (UTC)
