Sometimes, not even death will curtail disrespect for one's enemies. In fact, it provides free rein to voice disapproval and disdain! This is usually a case of Last Disrespects, but sometimes it will be used to voice Brutal Honesty about issues surrounding the deceased. Sometimes the character will go the extra mile and mock those mourning the deceased to their face!
A somewhat memetic take on this is a response to its opposite trope of Never Speak Ill of the Dead: it boils down to "don't be an asshole while you're alive". This is naturally an Aesop of how one's deeds in life will affect their reputation past their death. If you like morbid humor, it could be a literal variant of Never Live It Down.
The opposite of Never Speak Ill of the Dead. When this is played for laughs, it's probably putting The "Fun" in "Funeral". Compare with And There Was Much Rejoicing, Bitter Wedding Speech, Pummeling the Corpse, and Asshole Victim.
This is a Death Trope, so expect unmarked spoilers ahead.
Examples:
- Attack on Titan:
- Erwin, standing over the body of Dimo Reeves, a man Erwin is accused of murdering, truthfully brings up the time when Reeves delayed the evacuation of Trost District by trying to bring his wealth with him (and only backed down when Mikasa threatened to kill him). That said, Erwin then mentions Reeves's work to revitalize Trost District and give people work in the time after the invasion and vows to find Reeves's killer.
- Griez badmouths the recently deceased Sasha Blouse as a "whore" and a "daughter of devils" when speaking to some of her imprisoned comrades, including the man she loved. This earns him a bullet in the head from Yelena since she doesn't care for what he's saying.
- Bleach:
- Di Roy is so hated by his fellow Arrancar that his gruesome death against Rukia just inspires them to mock him even more for his weakness, since Rukia defeated him with barely any effort.
- Similarly, after Aaroniero becomes the first of the Espada to fall (also against Rukia, although Rukia nearly dies of her wounds), Baraggan mocks him for being overconfident, as does Zommari.
- When fighting Ichigo for a second time, Yammy reveals to him that he's the Cero Espada, and therefore is stronger than all the three defeated Espada (Grimmjow, Nnoitra, Ulquiorra) that Ichigo fought so far, calling all three trash compared to him. Ichigo is disturbed at Yammy's words, seeing that despite Yammy's comrades being dead, it's Orihime who feels much sadder for them, even though they kidnapped (Ulquiorra), mistreated (Grimmjow) and abused (Nnoitra) her. It should be noted that Grimmjow is still alive.
- A defining characteristic of Yhwach is that he constantly insults and belittles already-dead enemies and allies alike, often to the proverbial faces of their corpses. With Yamamoto, he subjects his corpse to a lengthy, brutal, and oddly poignant "The Reason You Suck" Speech before desecrating his body by hacking off his one remaining arm, stomping on his head, and incinerating the rest.
- Death Note: At the very end of the series, Light tries to justify his actions by claiming that in a world so rotten, idealists like his own father, who died trying to stop Kira, will always be made out to be fools unless Light can continue to rule. He says this right in front of Matsuda, who idolized Soichiro, and gets shot five times for it.
Matsuda: You led your own father to his death, and now that he's gone, you call him a fool?!
- In Fafner in the Azure: Dead Aggressor, Shouko's death resulted in some of the islanders desecrating her grave to the horror of her friends who saw her make a Heroic Sacrifice for them. This was done by Soushi himself to make sure other pilots do not throw their lives away in battle by sacrificing themselves and that in reality everyone on the island misses her very much and mourns deeply for her sacrifice.
- Fate/Apocrypha: Siegfried sacrificed his life to save a Homunculus, who then renamed himself Sieg to honor him. When Astolfo later explains this to Mordred, Mordred laughs and says Siegfried was an idiot to do that.
- JoJo's Bizarre Adventure:
- Phantom Blood: After his father's passing, Dio visits his grave to talk about him being a terrible father and spits on it.
- Stardust Crusaders: In the OVA, after Avdol's Heroic Sacrifice, Vanilla Ice calls him an idiot for sacrificing himself.
- Golden Wind: Once Cioccolata dies first, Secco's reaction is to callously mock his former associate for being weak. This is in spite of Cioccolata giving him sweets and treating him much better than anyone else would in the organization.
- Maria no Danzai:
- When pressed to remember the date of Kiritaka's death in order to save his own life, Kowase curses the fact that Kiritaka didn't die on an easy-to-remember holiday after he proves unable to remember the date and the month (it was a couple of weeks before Christmas, by the way, and Kowase somehow forgot even that).
- Once it becomes clear that she's beyond saving, Shikimi completely breaks down and mumbles at Maria to die and join her son.
"You'll soon be sent where Nagare is. Mother and son, both of you will be fucking messed up...!"
- Kinugawa has the gall to complain that the gang is not to be blamed for Kiritaka's death, but rather that it's all his own fault for dying without their permission.
- My Hero Academia:
- All Might, the eighth wielder of One For All, tells Midoriya (the ninth wielder) and Bakugo about the previous seven wielders, who died fighting All For One (except for the fourth wielder, who later turns out to have perished due to Rapid Aging). Bakugo isn't especially impressed by these heroes, since he hasn't heard about them.
- In the denouement, after Tomura Shigaraki's death, quite a few members of the public make it clear how little they think of him and that they're glad he's dead.
- Naruto: Not exactly speaking ill of the dead, but the basic principle is the same: when Gato arrives on the scene after Haku's death, one of the first things he does is kick Haku's body in the face as payback for Haku breaking his arm and wish that Haku was still alive to feel the hit. It makes his Karmic Death at Zabuza's hands all the more satisfying to watch.
- YuYu Hakusho:
- At the start of the series, two sadist teachers badmouth Yusuke at his funeral and even suggest that Yusuke pushed the kid he saved into the street in the first place. Another teacher, the one who believed Yusuke had potential, calls them out on it.
- Both Toguro brothers do this with Genkai after the younger Toguro kills her just before the finals of the Dark Tournament. Younger Toguro mocks Genkai for having grown weak in her old age in order to provoke her student Yusuke, intending to goad Yusuke into fighting him at full power. That being said, he doesn't care for his older brother's mocking Genkai during Elder Toguro's match with Kuwabara, since he and Genkai were formerly friends. The latter decision proves to be a bad idea on Elder Toguro's part, as Kuwabara is able to turn the tables and defeat him.
- One one-shot chapter early on in the manga shows Yusuke encountering the ghost of a girl haunting a bench. It turns out that last Christmas, she'd promised to wait for her boyfriend Kenji there, only to fall ill and die before she could make it. Kenji arrives and apologizes for being late... to his latest girlfriend. He then mocks the dead girl for how patient she was and complains that she, by standing him up, caused him to lose a bet. Even if you believe Kenji's claim that he doesn't know what happened to the girl, this is an incredibly low thing to do.
- Blaze of Glory: Opportunistic Bounty Hunter Gunhawk decides to shoot Kid Colt In the Back and then has the nerve to call him "saddle trash" as justification for such an unceremonious and untimely death... right in front of Caleb Hammer, who had been pursuing him for a long time and had grown to respect him somewhat. He proceeds to gun the sonuvabitch down. Maybe you shouldn't have said that, Gunhawk...
- In The Boys, Billy Butcher attends his abusive father's funeral just so he can tell his old man how much he hates him and that he was a pathetic excuse for a human being. Then he pisses on the corpse for good measure.
- Chick Tracts, in which the Christians witnessing to people will frequently tell them that unsaved people who died recently are in hell (although they will often note that it's not because of anything they did, but because they didn't accept Christ).
- After The Death of Superman, a few characters mocked Superman's death:
- Cat Grant's bratty little son Adam, when watching Superman's final battle on the news, was unmoved by his death and tried to change the channel. When Cat's boyfriend Jose Delgado asked what was wrong with him and to show some respect, he said, "Me and the kids at school always thought he was a big weenie anyway."
- A reporter covering the story chuckled and said, "I guess he wasn't so super after all."
- Guy Gardner spent a while blustering that he didn't know why the Boy Scout's death was such a big deal, before joining everyone else at the funeral and admitting (if only to himself) that he respected him.
- Doom Patrol: At the end of the Doom Force Special, the rest of the team react to Shasta the Living Mountain giving his life to save the day by remarking that they're glad he's dead and that he was always a creep, showing no gratitude whatsoever for their teammate's sacrifice.
- In Reid Fleming, World's Toughest Milkman, Reid pretends to have been stabbed in the back on the doorstep of a couple of his customers, to freak them out. Not only are they overjoyed that he's (apparently) dead, but when the mailman happens by and sees the body, he congratulates the couple, and runs off to tell others the good news!
- In Runaways, Molly Hayes drops her "Rudy Huxtable" routine when the time-displaced Geoffrey Wilder calls her out on it. She then coldly mocks Alex Wilder ( Geoffrey's son murdered by the Gibborim for his failure) and calls him "a total frikkin' failure."
- Watchmen:
- Walter "Rorschach" Kovacs hears of the death of his abusive mother years after being removed from her custody, and simply says, "Good."
- The Comedian, whose death sets the story in motion, ends up getting this from a lot of people who knew him. Silk Spectre II is disgusted by the Comedian's Attempted Rape of her mother, while Ozymandias remarks that the Comedian "was practically a Nazi."
Crossovers
- Bound by Chains: Jirou Kyoka gets accused of this for trying to spread the truth concerning a certain Pro Hero. Their death was supposedly a Heroic Sacrifice to stop a terrorist attack; however, Kyoka overheard them conspiring with the villains responsible — the attack was meant to be Engineered Heroics to revitalize their career, but went horribly wrong.
- A Call To Monsters: Lady Stoneheart refuses to permit anyone to mourn Jamie Lannister's death, declaring the deceased doesn't deserve such grief at their passing. She even yells at Brienne of Tarth for crying.
- Child of the Storm: At one point during Book 2, Happy Hogan is reflecting on Tony Stark's life, and when thinking over Obadiah Stane, declares him a "traitorous bastard" who wasn't worth the dirt piled onto his coffin.
- A Curse On Humanity: Izuku suffers a Death by Adaptation trying to use the Curse Energy Mahito gave him to save Katsuki from the Slime Villain. Later, Mahito mockingly asks Katsuki if seeing his Body of Bodies reminded him of Izuku, turning his hand into Izuku's face and making it talk like a sock puppet before stabbing it with his hand-blade.
- Dost Thou Even Steal Hearts?: The death of All For One is widely celebrated, even by several of his former followers. Compress declares that he's glad such a malevolent man has passed away, and Dabi insults AFO right to Shigaraki's face.
- Eagle's Wings: While recounting how she brought down the Slaughterhouse Nine, Asëamahtar declares that Jack Slash sounded utterly ridiculous while trying to speak with a broken nose.
- Good Luck in this Wonderful World: Yoshiro's choker can boost the charisma of his and his descendants high enough that it's effectively a Mind-Control Device. The cave holding said choker has an epitaph written on the wall disparaging the Serial Homewrecker:
Here is sealed the divine relic of Yoshiro the Man Whore, whose wanton sexual deviancy brought strife to (the) lives of the citizens of Belzerg. May this relic never see the light of day, nor ever fall into the hands of one who could use it again.
- Infinity Train: Blossomverse:
- Infinity Train: Blossoming Trail: After Chloe falls to her death thanks to a giant dragon, leaving her head cracked open, Apex member Tiffany declares that she deserved it, even though Chloe was risking her life trying to save Tiffany's ass, and that of the Apex, from being killed by that giant dragon (who was the co-leader of the Apex, Simon). Tiffany also shows No Sympathy to a denizen who was killed while trying to shield her from shrapnel, declaring that the denizen's heart is now her "battle trophy". When Tuba, Hazel's mother, kicks the bucket, Toby tries to comfort Hazel by stating that Tuba was a "stupid null", the narration even lampshading that he thought he was being empathetic to her until Hazel beats the snot out of him.
- Infinity Train: Voyage of Wisteria: When news of Grace Monroe's death spreads throughout the Train, most of its denizens celebrate her demise. Having lost one of his friends to her, Kisaragi's response to being asked if he's glad that she's gone is "Very." Tokio, who was traumatized by that same incident — and Grace's utter lack of remorse — agrees with him.
- Infinity Train: Seeker of Crocus: In the rewrite, Goh whines about the books Chloe likes, Chloe goads Goh to state the title of the books in full. He proudly state that the books were called Calyx's Cooking Chroni— and then pauses as he realizes that Calyx is Chloe's late great-grandfather. Chloe then informs Goh that those books were her great-grandfather's autobiographical comics that he wrote before he passed on, so now Goh is basically calling him boring and stupid. Goh can only sink in shame as Professor Cerise silently glares at him. Speaking of Calyx, Sara would later mock how Calyx died because of diabetes and that he was fat, to which Chloe retaliates that it was actually of pneumonia and smack her across the face.
- In the chapter of My Brave Pony: Starfleet Magic III following Twilight Sparkle's death, several people reassure Lightning Dawn that he shouldn't blame himself for what happened...in favor of Blaming the Victim rather than her murderer.
- Strange Potter opens with Doctor Strange (Marvel Cinematic Universe) retrieving the infant Harry Potter from the Dursleys and ensuring that Sirius receives custody. When Strange visits Dumbledore and meets Snape for the first time, when Snape refers to James Potter as an "arrogant fool" and a "disgrace of a man", Strange responds by dropping Snape into a magical portal to fall for twenty minutes. When Dumbledore asks if words hurt Strange that much, Strange counters that after James's last act was to try and buy time for his wife and son to escape, he deserves better than to be disrespected by someone who was against everything James clearly stood for.
- Suicidal Overconfidence (Central Park/Marvel): Played with, mostly for horror: Bitsy Brandenham, upset that Wilson Fisk has strong-armed everybody backing her into purchasing Central Park into walking away from the deal, thought she could pull off psychological warfare on Fisk by insulting his missing-and-presumed-dead (and actually deceased, but she does not know this) wife and son, calling them idiots for disappearing in Switzerland and the New York City sewers. A murderously angry Kingpin bludgeons her to death with his bare hands, making extremely damned sure that this "accident" will leave Bitsy's corpse unpresentable for an open-casket funeral.
- Voyages of the Wild Sea Horse: Zigzagged when the Four Emperors of the New World react to the death of Shiki, a pirate who was a rival to Gol. D. Rogers and who sailed as part of the Rocks Pirates with three of them. Shanks and Whitebeard acknowledge him as a Jerkass, but still admit he had his good side and wish his spirit peace, with Shanks even ordering his crew to raise a glass in acknowledgement of Shiki's passing. Kaido dismisses him as an arrogant fool, but still vows to kill Shiki's killer, Ranma Saotome, because Shiki was still a former crewmate. And Big Mom just laughs off Shiki's death and treats it as great news, slandering him to her children because Shiki had the audacity to turn down becoming her first husband.
The Amazing Digital Circus
- Coping Mechanism: Jax's second nightmare shows him the other players having a funeral for him and musing they don't have a single positive memory about him. For all he claims he wishes for this to happen, Jax is so plainly anguished by the prospect that he almost Abstracts in his sleep.
Arrowverse
- Forging a Better Future: Oliver doesn't speak too highly of either of his parents. In particularly, he bluntly describes his mother as a terrorist on multiple occasions.
- What it Takes:
- Absolutely no one has any kind words for Ra's al Ghul (except for Talia, who still loved him despite her difficulties with him), as all of Team Arrow's current problems can be traced back to him, one way or the other. Laurel even plainly tells Talia to her face that she hated Ra's and doesn't hold him in any high regard at all.
- While he's a lot more respectful about it than most examples, Oliver has no issues telling Laurel his honest opinion about Quentin: namely, that only Quentin is to blame for how things turned out for him, and that it is not her fault her father couldn't find it in him to love her the way she loved him. This conversation happens in front of Quentin's grave, no less, showing how far Oliver's opinion of Quentin had fallen after everything that happened in the story.
Battle Royale
- 1st American Blitz: Junko was a little bit of a Bratty Teenage Daughter, along with a wannabe Valley Girl. For these reasons alone, Omatsu-San describes her late daughter as "She was - and remains to this day - my greatest failure."
Buffyverse
- Bring Me To Life: When Spike describes the late Doyle as "that little poncy-looking Mick with the bad hair and crappy dress sense", Angel angrily warns him to never talk about Doyle that way again.
Chainsaw Man
- Auditors, Contracts, and Social Worker: Kobeni's sister Shio refuses to pretend there's anything good to say about their father after he dies in the Gun Devil attack.
Shio: I-I-I'm sorry, I just keep hearing people try to be nice or-or trying to show some respect for the dead, and he doesn't deserve it. He didn't deserve it, and we deserve better than to feel like we have to pretend we aren't all better off with him gone.
Danganronpa
- Dangan Ronpa: Galactic Melancholy: While the survivors are holding a memorial to those who had died so far throughout the killing game, Byakuya callously declares that they all "deserved it". This sparks a fight between him and Chihiro that gets the latter's nose broken.
- Danganronpa 2: Goodbye Denial: Komaeda is deeply disgusted upon realizing that the second murderer was driven by Despair in a way he can't twist around to fit his veneration of Hope. This leads him to start scorning all of the blackened Ultimates for "giving in to Despair".
- Danganronpa: Camp Kuma!:
- As far as Nagito is concerned, anyone who dies due to the Deadly Game doesn't deserve any respect, as their Hope wasn't strong enough to see them through to the end. He's especially thrilled by Makoto's death, as he'd resented having to treat them with even the thinnest veneer of respect.
- After hearing that the first culprit was planning to kill Yasuhiro because she considered him to be the "weakest link", Junko is utterly disgusted and wonders why any of them bothered to mourn their death.
- System Restore:
- While Togami does his best to avoid this, during the first trial, he has to explain to the other students that Komaeda(who was the victim in this fic, which diverges from canon due to Togami tripping and being unable to make it under the table before Komaeda is stabbed) was planning to kill somebody at the party.
- Hiyoko, by contrast, has absolutely no problem with this. The morning after the first trial, she gleefully greets the others by declaring "Geez, it's as dead as Komaeda and Hanamura in here!" Her complete Lack of Empathy eventually pushes Mahiru to her Rage Breaking Point, calling her out on her callousness.
- In Where Talent Goes to Die, Hoshino doesn't hesitate to speak badly of the first two murderers, calling them selfish for trying to graduate and endangering the group. Miura acknowledges that Hoshino isn't wrong... even if Hoshino ultimately ends up being the third murderer.
Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba
- In I Hate You, Brother, Nezuko came to resent how her mother openly favored Tanjiro after their father's death, treating him as the central pillar of their family while neglecting her daughter. Her resentment extends to said father, blaming him for her misery.
Disney Animated Canon
- Dodger & Company: Dodger meets his estranged father, Duke, who has only just learned that Dodger's mother, Annie, has recently died. He then goes off on a rant about how Annie paints herself as a lying martyr who sees everybody else as responsible for her misery; this is especially rich coming from Duke, who's hardly a saint himself. Dodger then attacks him and tells him to fuck off.
Dragon Ball
- Dragon Ball Z: PRIMAL: After Erasa and Sharpner learn that Gohan is Saiyaman, Sharpner accuses him of being a fraud. When he insults Gohan's father, Erasa slaps and calls him out, but Sharpner isn't willing to listen... until Erasa demands "Do you have no respect for the deceased?!" before explaining to him how Goku had died seven years ago due to Cell.
- Of The Earthling Saiyan:
- The Wrath of The Earthling Saiyan: The aliens who catch Kakarot and Raditz stealing food on Frieza's ship mock their parents for being dead. They claim the brothers' parents deserved it for being weak and having weak children.
- Played for Drama in The Forgotten Past of The Earthling Saiyan. After members of the Resistance Army burn down much of the forest on Mount Paozu, Kakarot discovers that they also vandalized his grandfather's grave by carving the phrase "Burn in Hell, you Saiyan-raising bastard."
The Fairly OddParents!
- Burning Black: Remy constantly insults and belittles the late Timmy Turner... behind closed doors, anyway, as the rest of Dimmsdale tends to break out the mob equipment whenever he dares to do so in public. Juandissimo also engages in this, but he knows that Timmy is still alive.
Godzilla\MonsterVerse
- Abraxas (Hrodvitnon):
- Ghidorah's three heads have all done this at least once, what with the sadistic prick that the three-headed King of Terror is traditionally known for being. All three heads express contempt for Alan Jonah when he dies sometime after being absorbed into the Many's Hive Mind, and the right head (Ni) also passingly calls the Thunderers, whom Ghidorah exterminated, "misbegotten" creatures to the face of the angst-ridden last surviving Thunderer.
- Ghidorah's middle and right heads (Ichi and Ni) are also on the receiving end of this trope from Vivienne Graham, who tells San when comforting him that Ichi and Ni (who are presumed to still be dead at this time) were "the biggest cunts [she's] ever seen". San finds himself agreeing with her, parroting Vivienne's insult on them as he perks up.
Harry Potter
- In Lily's Next Great Adventure
the second-in-command of a squad of goblins refers to a rookie recruit who died after running ahead of the others as a "foolish grog guzzler." His commander then slaps him and says "Respect the dead, meat-head!"
Infinity Train
- Unlinked: When Hazel goes to retrieve a copy of Amelia's tape from The Cat, the feline — believing that Amelia is dead and that Hazel is just seeking mementos of some kind — is more than happy to remind the teenager that prior to her Heel–Face Turn, her mother figure spent most of her life both directly and indirectly causing disorder and chaos for denizens and passengers alike on the train.
The Cat: If you ask me, dying early was mercy.
Invader Zim
- Killer Ghost Goth Chick of Doom: Jessica and Chunk have no problem insulting Gaz after her death, even acting like it's something to celebrate.
Marvel Universe
- Pound the Table: After the death of DA Lou Young, Jameson sends Nora a framed collection of articles detailing the Laser-Guided Karma that befell them before their untimely demise, jokingly asking Nora why he shouldn't engage in such behavior.
The Matrix
- A Different Point of View
looks at the immediate aftermath of Cypher's betrayal of the crew once the ship returns to Zion with Neo, ranging from Mifune being horrified at the extent of Cypher's betrayal to Zee wishing she had the chance to hurt him for killing her brothers, or the dying Tank mocking that Cypher wanted to go back to the Matrix because he couldn't get laid in the real world.
Miraculous Ladybug
- The Murder of Lila Rossi: Those who didn't trust Lila don't hide it when speaking to Detective Wolfe. It doesn't make Wolfe's job any easier.
My Hero Academia
- Being Realistic Means to Adapt: The Sports Festival gets canceled following Shouto's tragic demise. Katsuki is utterly furious, ranting about how their death robbed him of the chance to prove he's the strongest and most powerful student at U.A.
- The Best Case Scenario, if you're being "realistic":
- During the memorial service for Iida Tenya at U.A., Izuku overhears several students complaining about the deceased, insisting that they should have known better than to go after a supervillain who'd already racked up quite the body count of Pro Heroes. Making matters worse is that two of the deceased's classmates had already been slain during the USJ incident; as far as their critics are concerned, this should have helped the deceased realize how easily they could be killed as well. They also complain about how poorly their death will reflect upon U.A., which had already come under fire for the previous deaths.
- Aizawa's funeral downright has most of the mourners, including their friends, rant about how awful the deceased was and how much they failed those they were in charge of.
- Dekugate: One member of the titular community gets offended by other members calling them out for insulting the late Mary Shield, claiming that it was "proven" that she was an actress who faked her death from cancer.
- Mastermind: Rise of Anarchy: After Endeavor's death, Natsuo cracks jokes about it. While Fuyumi rebukes her brother, she then admits that she can't blame any of them for being happy, and that the world likely is better off with Endeavor gone.
- No One Is Untouchable:
- After Katsuki dies, Ochako publicly vents about how much she hated the Entitled Bastard who killed countless innocents through his recklessness, including her own parents. She also rails against U.A. and the Commission for enabling him for so long, and lashes out at the also deceased Aizawa, calling him a "villain-maker".
- Shouto proved to be just as big a Control Freak as his father, trapping Momo in a miserable, loveless marriage as part of a scheme to spite Endeavor. After Shouto's death, Momo went public and revealed just how he'd treated her.
- Public Favor: While the public turned a blind eye towards Endeavor's crimes back when he was first outed as a Domestic Abuser, his Karma Houdini Warranty expires alongside him ten years later, when his son Shouto stands accused of his murder. Suddenly, everyone's more than happy to condemn Endeavor as an Asshole Victim.
- a word for 'bad miracle': Hisashi abandoned Inko and Izuku. When he and his second wife are killed in a car crash, most of her family is more than happy to disparage the dead. Izuku also doesn't have any problems with insulting Hisashi, though he avoids doing so around his half-sister until Hinata brings up her own frustrations over the lengths their father went to hide his secrets.
My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic
- Grief is the Price We Pay: Twilight's inability to admit that she'd made any mistakes in handling the matter with Thorax and Spike culminates with her trying to deflect blame onto poor Thorax following their demise. This proves to be the last straw for Spike, and when Celestia learns about the incident, she regards her apprentice with wide-eyed horror, asking how she could have ever said such a thing.
- Why Am I Crying?:
- The Daze brothers make very clear that they aren't the least bit saddened by Diamond Tiara's sudden death, with Shady Daze telling Silver Spoon outright that he wishes both of them were killed in the same accident.
- Downplayed for Scootaloo - while she's not necessarily happy about it, Scootaloo doesn't feel any need to mourn or be saddened by Diamond's death due to Diamond's constant and cruel bullying.
Naruto
- In Hakumei, this attitude towards the Third Hokage is so prevalent that Konohamaru wants to be taught by a foreign shinobi, simply because all of the shinobi in Konoha constantly insult his late grandfather.
- Kitsune no Ken: Fist of the Fox: Around the start of the Spiral Reaper arc, a teacher is found murdered in his home, the first victim of the titular killer. The cops immediately pinpoint Yukata, a former student of Konoha High School who's had a bad history with that teacher, as someone with enough motive to want to kill him. When they find her and inform her of the teacher's death, Yukata's initial response is to say, "Ding-dong, the bastard's dead." Naturally, the cops tell her that such a statement will only make her seem more guilty, to which she retorts that the teacher was instrumental in getting her punished for a crime she didn't commit, so she's surely not going to be singing his praises. The teacher turns out to be the killer himself, having faked his own death to throw off suspicion.
- Son of the Sannin: During the final battle, Madara Uchiha has the nerve to refer to Maito Gai as "that green-clad fool", even after admitting that he made him fear for his life for the first time in decades when he used the Eight Gate to fight him (and Madara only survived by sheer luck and Gai being tired from destroying his giant Chibaku Tensei meteors to save as many lives as possible). Naturally, the Konoha 15, especially Gai's own students, do not take this kindly.
- A Teacher's Glory: After Kakashi accidentally dies at the hands of his students when they follow his instructions to come at him with the intent to kill, Anko and Asuma discuss him in a way that zigzags around this. While they judge him a bit, they don't fall into overly insulting or praising him, concluding that he was a skilled shinobi and terrible teacher.
- In Team 8, Kurenai harshly says that if ninja on reconnaissance missions get into needless fights and die, they die as fools who won't have their names carved on the memorial stone.
- What You Knead: As much as he still cares for her, Kakashi eventually admits that he's never fully forgiven Rin for how she pulled a Suicide by Cop at his hands, resenting how she forced him to carry that weight... and left him saddled with the epithet of "Friend-Killer Kakashi".
One Piece
- Marie D. Suesse and the Mystery New Pirate Age!: At one point, Marie finds a trio of gravestones. While one has been left mostly untouched, the middle was wrecked to the point that it's impossible to tell who it was meant to memorialize. The epitaph on the third was also partially destroyed, and one of the blades was stolen.
Persona
- A Woman In Uniform: "To Absent Friends" features a memorial for Akechi. All of the Phantom Thieves who attend are more than happy to acknowledge his misdeeds.
RWBY
- Arcanum: Glynda and Ironwood express anger at Kali and her group for freeing a Wildmage during the Fall of Menegarie, and are relieved to hear that the group was betrayed and killed by a White Arcanist.
A Song of Ice and Fire
- In Closure (Ketch117), Lyanna scornfully declares that the late Rhaegar was a weak and wishy-washy failure who was awful at sex and even worse on the battlefield.
- The King Nobody Wanted:
- Urrigon Greyjoy doesn't hesitate to condemn his late mother as a murderous, ambitious Evil Matriarch.
- Garth Tyrell has no qualms about ridiculing the minuscule contributions that Lord Lucerys Velaryon made to the war effort before dying in a brothel fight. However, he is polite enough to wait until Lucerys' son Monford is out of earshot.
- Septon Baleriion is quite frank when describing the incompetence, callousness, and hedonism of his late father, another former Lord Velaryon.
- When Alliser Thorne makes a comment that his fallen comrade Jon Connington is probably Together in Death with King Aerys and Rheager in the Seven Heavens, all of his remaining (named) companions disagree. They make it clear that their loyalty to the Targaryen cause is due to My Country, Right or Wrong sentiments rather than any belief that the late King Aerys was anything but a sadistic tyrant.
Luthor Crabb: Connington and the prince I'll place with the Seven without doubt, but old Aerys...Well, that calls for a lot of divine mercy.
Alliser Thorne: You mock an anointed king! A king I served.
Luthor Crabb: We served same as you, Ser Alliser, through the Battle of the Bells, the Trident, and the Sack. A king may be anointed and still be a bad man.
SPY×FAMILY
- Dead apple: Ewen and Emile don't see anything wrong with mocking Anya after her unexpected demise. Damian does, reaming the pair out and ordering them to apologize to Becky.
Umineko: When They Cry
- Redaction of the Golden Witch: The Protagonist of the 1996 sequences is uncomfortable with how their Witch Hunter friends have bought into the sensationalism surrounding the Rokkenjima Incident, and lost sight of the fact that all of their theorizing and fantasizing involves real people who existed, rather than fictional characters. Part of the reason they agreed to join them on their trip was they were hoping that seeing the area would help them realize how disrespectful their behavior was.
- The Land Before Time: During their argument over which way to go to the Great Valley, Cera flat-out tells Littlefoot to his face that his deceased mother was a "stupid longneck." Littlefoot loses his temper and promptly attacks her.
- In Analyze That, Dr. Sobol releases a scathing invective at his late father during his eulogy. This is revealed to be an Imagine Spot, but later we hear that the actual eulogy wasn't much better. (The words "cold and withholding" were used.)
- Batman (1989). The Joker mocks the corpse after he kills Antoine Rotelli, a mob boss.
Joker: You are a vicious bastard, Rotelli. I'm glad you're dead.
- Bumblebee: In a massive Kick the Dog moment, Alpha Bitch Tina insults Charlie's car and tells Charlie her dead father should get her a new one. Thankfully, she receives a nice dose of Laser-Guided Karma courtesy of Bumblebee.
Tina: This car is an embarrassment. You should have your dad buy you a better one.
- The Color Purple (1985): Mr's sisters are talking to Celie and start criticising Mr's old wife - she was apparently terrible at housework and by the end of her life was having an affair (which was understandable, and also her cause of death). They lampshade it by saying "It's not good to speak ill of the dead, but the truth can never be ill."
- Hot Shots! Part Deux. Ramada's husband falls to his death while doing something really stupid.
Topper Harley: He really was a wiener.
Ramada: Don't get me started. - The framing device of La Ferme des Sept Péchés is an investigation into the murder of its protagonist, Paul-Louis Courier. Through interviews with the judge and various flashbacks, most of the characters make it clear that they hated Paul-Louis for being a stingy, brutal landlord and an abusive husband, and aside from the village idiot, they're all glad he's dead.
- Rio Lobo: Upon hearing that Shasta shot Mook Lieutenant Whitey, Old Man Phillips declares that's the best news he's heard all year.
- Thor: The Dark World: When Erik Selvig, who has been mentally disturbed by the events of The Avengers, in which he was brainwashed by Loki, finds out that Loki has died (except he hasn't):
Thor: Loki's dead.
Erik: Oh, thank God!
Thor: (looks at Selvig, appalled)
Erik: I mean...I'm so sorry for your loss. - Unfriended: When the group are discussing about Laura's death anniversary, Ken is rather unsympathetic, reminding the others that Laura was a bully when she was alive, so her being bullied to suicide meant that she got a taste of her own medicine. It's later revealed that everyone in the group, including Ken, participated in Laura's cyber-bullying, which is the reason why she now targets them all.
- The Wizard of Oz (1939): An Asshole Victim example. The Wicked Witch of the East, an evil villain, gets killed when a house falls on her. How do the citizens react to this? They sing, "Ding Dong The Witch Is Dead! Which Old Witch? The Wicked Witch! Ding Dong The Wicked Witch Is Deeaaaad!!"
- In Aunt Dimity: Detective Lori and her family return from a vacation to find that Prunella Hooper was bludgeoned to death. Lori asks her live-in nanny why she didn't mention this when she heard about it.
Annelise: Mum said it'd put a damper on your holiday, and besides, old Pruneface was no great loss. 'Good riddance to bad rubbish,' Mum says.
- The Belgariad:
- At the climax of The Belgariad, Zedar panics after killing Durnik, who'd attacked him. When Belgarath(whose daughter Polgara loves Durnik) confronts Zedar, Zedar panicks and claims that "the fool" attacked him. Belgarath, who has despised Zedar for millennia since Zedar betrayed their master Aldur for Torak, attacks Zedar and buries him alive.
- Early on in the sequel series The Malloreon, Emperor Ran Borune, father of Ce'Nedra, passes away. When Ce'Nedra and her husband Garion attend Ran Borune's funeral, they have to listen to attendees insulting him, whether subtly or overtly. Garion can barely contain his anger, but is forced to settle for calmly describing the atmosphere as "rancid".
- Break of Dark: When they shoot down the German pilot in Blackham's Wimpy, Blackham and his crew not only spend the next 20-30 minutes exulting and mocking him as he burns to death, but they carry on their celebrations when they get back to base. Strongly implied that this is why he comes back to haunt them.
- The Christmas Appeal: Those who knew the victim, Ronnie, only have negative things to say. He was an alcoholic and a wife-beater, so few people missed him when he left. His own sons call him a bastard and call his death "a good riddance."
- From A Christmas Carol — when Scrooge is visited by the Ghost of Christmas Future, he sees many people stealing from a dead man, laughing at how much better things are without him, and telling nasty stories. He's horrified to find that person was him, and that no one genuinely misses him.
- Grandmaster of Demonic Cultivation: Mo Dao Zu Shi:
- Implied with Yu Ziyuan who would often verbally abuse and look down on Wei Wuxian for being the son of a servant and speculated that her husband had an affair with Wei Wuxian's mother, showing she was not above making spiteful remarks about his deceased parents.
- Meng Shi is often on the receiving end of insults after her death because she was a prostitute and as a means to insult her son and his background.
- Despite everything that Wen Qing and Wen Ning had done for him, Jiang Cheng still doesn't hesitate to insult the Wen clansman who were all killed during the First Siege.
- Harry Potter:
- Hermione criticizes Sirius, more than a year after Sirius's death: "Sirius was horrible to Kreacher... I've said all along that wizards would pay for how they treat house elves. Well, Voldemort did... and so did Sirius." Dumbledore said more or less the same, although noting that Sirius's problem was Kreacher and not house-elves in general.
- Marge, Uncle Vernon's sister, tends to spend most of her visits at the Dursleys' home openly insulting either Harry or his late parents. Suffice to say, this does not end well for her.
- Snape, of course, hardly ever misses the chance to make a snide remark about Harry's dead father. When Harry learns his dad really was a bully in his teens, it comes as an unpleasant shock.
- Rita Skeeter published an unsavory 900-page book about Dumbledore just a few months after his death. What she says about him personally isn't necessarily untrue, but it definitely takes a lot of stuff out of context.
- In The Hunger Games, Clove intentionally mocks Rue's death while pinning Katniss down at her mercy. However, if she didn't choose to rant and kill Katniss right there, Thresh would have never overheard and killed Clove for saying such things.
- The Last Days of Krypton: Tyr-Us refers to his fellow dissident Gil-Ez as "vain and self-righteous" after he disappears and is presumed dead (although it turns out Gil-Ex is only being held prisoner in the Phantom Zone).
- The Saint, in The Death Penalty, says that he's never seen a reason for "buttering up a name just because it's a dead one" and that the (very) recently deceased Big Bad of the story "will leave the world a little cleaner for being dead." Simon is adhering to Christopher Hitchens maxim "Never say anything nasty about the dead that you weren't brave enough to say while they were alive. Everything else is fair game," though; he said (and did) very nasty things face-to-face and one-on-one to the late villain.
- In the Sherlock Holmes story "The Adventure of Black Peter", the titular Asshole Victim suffers from this; his own daughter flat-out tells Holmes and Watson that she's glad her father is dead and blesses the hand that killed him.
- The point of the titular occupation in Speaker for the Dead. Speakers investigate their subjects' lives and tell the truth about them, good or bad.
- Mark Renton from Trainspotting isn't sad about either of his brothers being dead, with Billy being a Big Brother Bully and the handicapped Davie being an embarrassment who took all their mother's attention.
- Wind and Truth: Hoid rages against Dalinar’s memory after Roshar falls to Odium and doesn’t understand why he renounced his Oaths in the Contest. However, once Hoid eventually realizes what Dalinar’s Thanatos Gambit was, he quickly changes his tune and calls him "a storming genius."
- Wolf Hall:
- After Cardinal Wolsey dies, an obscene masque is put on for Henry that depicts Wolsey being dragged to Hell and mocks his background as a butcher's boy. The Duke of Norfolk asks to have the script so he can put it on at his own home; Henry and Anne also find it hilarious. Thomas Cromwell's reaction is somewhat different.
- When Katharine of Aragon passes away, Anne marks the occasion by pointedly walking around in yellow.
- In You Don't Own Me, Steven has nothing nice to say about the late Dr Martin Bell, bluntly telling Laurie that he was "a cheat. A fraud. And all-around jerk of a human being." He says it disgusts him that Martin still gets treated like he "walked on water" while his wife Kendra is slated by everyone, when in actual fact Martin was a horrible husband and possibly a sham doctor. Steven says he thinks the only reason Martin wasn't exposed by now was because he was murdered and no one wanted to drag up dirt on him, with Steven having no such qualms. Although Kendra wasn't Martin's biggest fan either, even she isn't so vitriolic about Martin and she tries to remind Steven he had some good traits. The fact Steven is clearly in love with Kendra certainly contributes to his low opinion of Martin.
- In Lawrence Block's The Burglar in the Closet Craig Sheldrake is arrested for the murder of his ex-wife Crystal. Craig's employee/girlfriend Jillian has a few choice things to say about the deceased.
"I can't believe Craig would kill her," she was saying. "She was a bitch and he hated her, but I can't believe he would kill anyone. Even a rotten tramp like Crystal."
I tried to remember that Latin phrase for speaking well of the dead, then gave it up. De mortuis ta-tum ta-tum bonum, something along those lines.
- All My Children:
- After Michael Cambias's death, everyone in Pine Valley goes to his funeral just to give eulogies about how much they hate his guts for what he did to Bianca, with Bianca's lover Lena going so far as to spit on his grave.
- Also, after David Hayward's apparent death, only Greenlee, Krystal, and Marissa go to his funeral, while everyone else in town throws a party to celebrate his demise.
- In Arrow, Felicity Smoak is a fan of this, doing so right after the deaths of both Moira Queen (her funeral no less) and Amanda Waller.
- Breaking Bad: When Leonel dies in the hospital after Mike secretly gives him a lethal injection, several police officers are shown with satisfied grins, and Gomez hopes he'll be burning in hell. Given that Leonel and his brother Marco are cartel hitmen with a combined body count in the dozens, if not hundreds, and Leonel had been hospitalized attempting to assassinate DEA agent Hank, it's obvious that'd they would have no sympathy for a man like him.
- In Buffy the Vampire Slayer, when minor character Chloe committed suicide, an annoyed Buffy called her a weak moron for quitting when things got tough.
- Coupling: At Jane’s aunt Margaret’s funeral, her living aunt Muriel starts eating before the service, saying that she’s hungry now and anyway that she “never liked the bitch”. She follows up by mockingly offering the deceased a bite.
"Sausage roll, Margaret? Oh no. You’re dead."
- The Expanse: Johnson has no illusions whatsoever about what kind of person Miller was after the latter performs a Heroic Sacrifice, calling the belated "a pain-in-the-ass, suicidal ex-cop".
- In a famous episode of The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air, Uncle Phil's Jerkass former mentor-turned-political opponentnote dies after Will chews him out for being so rotten. At the funeral, basically nobody has anything nice to say about the man, and most showed up just to make sure he was really dead. Will, still feeling guilty, berates them by saying he might not have been a pleasant man, but he still deserves a little dignity in death. When asked who he is, Will responds "I'm the dude who killed him"...and gets a standing ovation. "Tough room" indeed.
- Game of Thrones:
- Queen Cersei and King Joffrey have no qualms posthumously calling the late Lord Renly Baratheon a "degenerate" in "Dark Wings, Dark Words." Cersei is a woman who had three children with her twin brother. Joffrey also calls Renly a "deviant" in front of Brienne and Margaery in "The Lion and the Rose". Later in the episode, the dwarf actor who plays "Renly" is derided as a "degenerate" by his "Joffrey" co-star.
- In "Mhysa", several Frey and Bolton soldiers openly mock those they killed in the Red Wedding. This gets them killed by Arya and the Hound when they spur the former's ire.
- In "Breaker of Chains", Tywin is quite happy to talk about Joffrey's various failings... while standing in front of the corpse's grieving mother, and speaking to the corpse's younger brother.
- In "Unbent, Unbowed, Unbroken", Cersei openly mocks the late Lysa Arryn to her husband's face, calling her a "thoroughly repellent woman".
- In "Book of the Stranger", when Khal Moro finds out one of his bloodriders (sworn bodyguard) has apparently been murdered with a rock, instead of investigating it, he mocks him and says he deserved to die if he went out in such a pathetic way.
- In "The Broken Man", several northerners bitterly call the late King Robb Stark a fool and his late wife Talisa a "foreign whore".
- In "The Queen's Justice", Lady Olenna uses her last moments to reminisce on the late King Joffrey in front of the deceased's father: nonchalantly insulting him by calling him a "cunt", mocking his Cruel and Unusual Death, and confessing to orchestrating his murder. The only reason she gets away with it is because at this point it's too late to punish her since she just drank a vial of poison, the whole thing thus serving as a final, giant middle finger to Cersei.
- In "Winterfell", after coercing Cersei into sleeping with him, Euron asks Cersei how he compares in bed to "the fat king". Cersei answers that despite constantly whoring, Robert had no idea how to satisfy a woman in bed.
- A variation on the Golden Girls episode "It's A Miserable Life". When the girls host a funeral for the despised Frieda Claxton, a woman who shows up cites all the wonderful things she did before realizing she's attending the wrong service. When it's clarified whose funeral she's actually at, she proceeds to kick the coffin before storming off with a final disgusted look, making it clear just how horrible a person the deceased truly was.
- Victor Lewis-Smith's Honest Obituaries series of sketches about UK Celebrities (all of whom were alive at the time the series was written) on the short-running UK comedy series TV Offal.
- House:
- Dr. House's eulogy for his father mostly consists of Calling the Old Man Out posthumously for his abusive parenting and noting that none of the attendees were people who experienced how cruel he was to those under his power.
- In the Series Finale, most of the show's major characters turn up at the title character's funeral to commemorate the positive impact House had on their lives. His best friend Wilson, though, takes the opportunity to call House out for being selfish, self-destructive, and short-sighted. The twist is that House is still very much alive, and texts Wilson "Shut up you idiot" while he's at the dais.
- Interview with the Vampire (2022): In "The Thing Lay Still", Lestat de Lioncourt pokes fun at the dead husband of a Socialite he once had a quickie with, and she bursts out laughing at his joke.
Lestat: Now, which one of you did I pull under the stairs during that dull lecture on Don Giovanni?
Socialite: That would be me. And that was my late husband giving the lecture.
Lestat: And did he talk himself to death?
(Socialite guffaws) - JAG:
- In "Pilot Error", there are persistent rumors that Lt. Pendry had been having an affair with his female wingman, and that this may have contributed to the crash.
- Singer was such an unpleasant person to the rest of the JAG team that after she's murdered in the two-part Backdoor Pilot for NCIS, the main characters struggle to find anything nice to say about her.
- Last Week Tonight with John Oliver:
- The death of Prince Philip was called “a tragedy if you don't know a single thing about him”, and had even worse words for his wife Elizabeth II, with John mocking the mourning period
, claiming the queen was "in the afterlife, looking up at Diana", and eventually did a whole segment questioning if the Monarchy should remain.
- Similarly, John described Henry Kissinger as dying "at the ripe old age of not soon enough", and took a full minute "to celebrate that man going to hell".
- The death of Prince Philip was called “a tragedy if you don't know a single thing about him”, and had even worse words for his wife Elizabeth II, with John mocking the mourning period
- Brazil's version of Last Week Tonight, Greg News, made a Running Gag out of providing reminders that Olavo de Carvalho
, a right-wing pundit and one of the ideologues of Jair Bolsonaro, was dead.
- In Red Dwarf, Rimmer dies before the start of the story proper but is brought back as a hologram. Lister insults him just as much as when he was alive. To be fair, it's much easier to speak ill of the dead when they're still walking around being a massive pain in the ass.
- In Smallville, when Lionel died, even the usual Nice Girl Chloe isn't too sorry about it. Justified because he had a strike force with kryptonite tasers to capture the love of her life and trap him in an adjustable kryptonite cage just two episodes before.
- The Sopranos:
- The wake of Tony's awful mother begins with the usual platitudes and fake respect. And then Carmela says what everyone's really thinking about the deceased, and things go rapidly downhill.
- At Jackie Aprile Jr.,'s wake, Tony's uncle "Junior" Corrado is quite blunt about what an idiot the young man truly was, and even Jackie Jr's own sister calls him stupid and pathetic after the funeral. Indeed, the reason Jackie got whacked is that he tried to rob a mafia card game and failed.
Junior: Kid was always a dumb fuck though, wasn't he? Didn't he almost drown in three inches of water?
Tony: The penguin exhibit.
- In the Star Trek: Deep Space Nine episode "The Siege Of AR 558", one of the soldiers refers to his dead friend as having been a loudmouth Know-Nothing Know-It-All jerk despite acknowledging that one should Never Speak Ill of the Dead. It's a sign that he's suffering from PTSD.
- On Succession, the PR/communications heads, Karolina and Hugo, offer the Roy brothers two ways to spin Logan's death: the kinder one is to portray it as Roman and Kendall naturally taking over the reins from their beloved father; the harsher one is to portray Logan as infirm and incompetent towards the end of his life and say the children had unofficially taken over by the time of his death. Roman is reluctant to go with the latter, but Kendall goes behind his back and tells Hugo to start trashing in the press.
- In the Superstore episode "Sal's Dead", the Cloud 9 staff are relieved to hear that the corpse found in the store's walls is their coworker Sal and not somebody they actually cared about. Newcomer Kelly is a little disturbed at how calm they are until they tell her what Sal was like in life.
Cheyenne: When he looked at you, it felt like he was grabbing you.
- The Green Day song "Ha Ha, You're Dead", where the singer expresses his joy that a horrible person he utterly despised has kicked the bucket. Specifically, it's about Tim Yohannan, an influential critic of the band who made their careers more difficult and was a difficult person to deal with in general.
Ha ha, you're dead! The joke is over!
You were an asshole, and now you're gone!
While your ship is going down, I'll stand by and watch you drown.
Ha ha, you're dead! Ha ha, you're dead! Ha ha, you're dead! - On the song "Reagan", Killer Mike ends the song with the line "I'll leave you with four words: I'm glad Reagan dead."
- MDC has two separate examples of this, "John Wayne Was a Nazi", a tirade of abuse at the dead actor for his real-life right-wing politics and the reactionary nature of many of the films he appeared in, and "Nazis Shouldn't Drive", an enthusiastic celebration of the death in a car crash of the neo-Nazi punk musician Ian Stuart Donaldson.
- The aforementioned "Ding Dong the Witch is Dead" became the #1 song in Britain after Margaret Thatcher died. A 74-year-old song.
- On The Bugle podcast, John Oliver coined the phrase "A Fuck-Eulogy" to describe the act of telling the truth about unpleasant dead people.
- Played straight by the infamous left-wing podcast Chapo Trap House. The hosts do not shy away from insulting and criticizing recently deceased political figures whom they hate such as Andrew Breitbart and John McCain, and freely admit that they would feel more insulted if a conservative politician pretended to feel sad for a deceased leftist figure.
Matt: Every time you remember that Andrew Breitbart is dead is a little gift you give to yourself.
- Another podcast, Respect The Dead, hinges entirely on making fun of controversial and hated figures that are now deceased, while discussing the things they've done and how it's affected other people before and after they died, all to emphasize how awful they were in life. They lampshade the Non-Indicative Name of their title in the description: "Respect the Dead; because we don't."
- Christian Cage, after his AEW Face–Heel Turn, begins insulting wrestlers with deceased fathers while claiming himself to be their only worthy mentor to the fatherless. Once he mocked Nick Wayne at Fyter Fest 2023 by belittling his late father Buddy:
"Well, I’ve never heard of your father, Buddy Wayne before, so he must not have been very good. The good news for you, Nick, is because your father was such a talentless hack, you don’t have a lot to live up to."
- In A-Jax, Agamemnon and Menelaus have good reason to hate Ajax after his attempted slaughter of their army, but veer a little too close to religious blasphemy in denying Ajax burial rights after he has committed suicide. Odysseus in comparison gives up his grudge and persuades them not to violate sacred rites.
- Subverted in Julius Caesar. Anthony's speech sounds like it's going to be this ("I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him") but by clever twisting of his words, he turns the assembled people against Caesar's killers.
- The premise of Wicked's opening number, "No One Mourns the Wicked". The Munchkins joyously celebrate the death of the Wicked Witch of the West and insult her, declaring that her legacy offers no reason for sympathy and restraint on their part. Glinda, who understands the Witch's reputation was founded on smear propaganda and misfortune, is forced to play along with the Munchkins despite being the Witch's one genuine mourner.
- Assassin's Creed: The Assassins make it a point to avert this, but there are exceptions. For example, after Ezio assassinates Vieri de' Pazzi, he proceeds to viciously insult Vieri's corpse, declaring that Vieri got what he deserved and he wished that he suffered more as he died. His uncle Mario steps in at that moment and urges Ezio to have more respect for the dead, warning him not to stoop to Vieri's level.
- Baldur's Gate II: The first time the player reaches Athkatla's Graveyard District, they'll be approached by a terrified man named Nevin, begging the party to save him from the murderous zombie of his hated uncle Lester, who rose from the dead outraged over the cheap and shabby funeral he was given. When Lester catches up, their dialogue makes it quite clear that Nevin clearly had no love for his uncle; he berates his uncle as a Dirty Old Man who left all of his money to his favorite prostitute and didn't even spare Nevin any money to pay for burying him, declares he should have just thrown Lester's corpse in the river, and outright refers to him as a "worm-ridden devil". If the player intervenes in the fight and kills Lester, Nevin cusses his uncle out for the expense of having to hold a second funeral, and openly contemplates just having the body chopped into mulch and fed to dogs.
- When Bottles is killed by Grunty at the beginning of Banjo-Tooie, Kazooie has no qualms about mocking his death, claiming he wasn't anyone's favorite character in the original game. Banjo quickly calls her out on this.
- In Chrono Trigger, late in the game, the party arrives at the Ocean Palace to stop the Kingdom of Zeal from awakening Lavos, only for Lavos to awaken and kill Crono. In the aftermath, Magus, who has his own grudge against Lavos, calls Crono weak and foolish, much to the rest of the party's outrage.
- Criminal Case: In nearly every case, with a scant few exceptions, most of the suspects openly trash-talk the murder victims as if they never learned how to not speak ill of the dead.
- In Dead by Daylight, before she became the Killer known as the Hag, Lisa Sherwood was a high school girl who had a bitchy sociopathic friend named Pam who copied Lisa's good luck charms to pass her tests. When their English teacher drops dead, Pam laughs at his passing. Lisa warns her not to insult the dead, but Pam is laughing at his funeral. The pallbearers are straining to carry the casket because he's so heavy, only for one to trip on a rock. They end up throwing the casket on top of Pam, squashing her flat as punishment from the spirits.
- At the end of Dino Crisis, if Gail dies, Dr. Kirk mocks his death by saying "And this is the reward for a lifetime of service to the government. Sad, isn't it?" Regina has none of it and punches Kirk in the face.
- After King Cailan's death in Dragon Age: Origins, in public Loghain implicitly blames him for the loss and even slightly more privately will do so openly, calling Cailan a foolish glory hound and shows him not the slightest hint of respect. Cailan actually did have a reason for the bad battle plan, but it was still a foolish risk that didn't pay off, so Loghain does have a point.
- Dragon Age: Inquisition: The first judgement that the Inquisitor has to deliver is against an Avvar barbarian... who threw a goat at your castle. Turns out, he was the father of an Avvar you had to fight earlier in the game and has come to satisfy the demands of honor over his son's death, but calls him an idiot at the same time. Now that he's thrown goat blood on your holdings, he doesn't care about fighting you.
- Dyztopia: Post-Human RPG: Right before his second boss fight, Clyde will mock whoever sacrificed themselves at the end of Chapter 2, which only serves to make the player want to beat his face in even more.
- In Far Cry 4, Pagan Min, the despotic king of Kyrat, tells Player Character Ajay Ghale that Ajay's father Mohan Ghale, the leader of the Golden Path, "was a cunt." Pagan's rudeness makes sense when you consider that Mohan killed Lakshmana, Pagan's infant daughter with Ajay's mother Ishwari Ghale. After that, a vengeful Ishwari killed her husband and took Ajay with her to America, leaving Pagan behind to bitterly subject the people of Kyrat to fresh atrocities. Pagan has every reason not to speak respectfully of a man like that.
- Discussed in Fire Emblem: Three Houses:
- After completing Sylvain's Paralogue, in which you mop up the remnants of Sylvain's older brother Miklan's gang of thieves, Sylvain says that it's not polite to speak ill of the dead, but calls Miklan selfish and egotistical, since Miklan's fall to villainy had been the result of being born without a Crest (making him unable to be heir to his family). Despite that, Sylvain wonders how he might have turned out if their roles had been reversed.
- In a Chapter 17 monastery conversation on the Verdant Wind and Azure Moon routes, Linhardt will note that he doesn't believe one should have to speak well of the dead, noting that, "If I didn't like them when they were alive, then why pretend to do so when they are no longer here?" Notably, Ferdinand, whom Linhardt apparently didn't like very much, dies in the previous chapter if not recruited (although Linhardt's dialogue doesn't change if that happens unlike Dorothea, who disliked Ferdinand but is devastated if he dies).
- The Hundred Line -Last Defense Academy-: In the Mystery route, after Shouma is identified as the first culprit and is killed later on, Ima coldly tells his corpse that he got what he deserved.
- In Kingdom Hearts 3D [Dream Drop Distance], how does Master Xehanort treat Terra's, Aqua's, and Ven's Heroic Sacrifices in Birth by Sleep? By invoking But for Me, It Was Tuesday and basically calling them Failure Heroes.
- The Last of Us Part II: Out of everyone involved with Joel's murder, Nora proves to be the vilest about their death, referring to the deceased as a "piece of shit" and calling them a monster. Even after being cornered by a vengeful Ellie, she pleads for Ellie to "remember what he's done", apparently not thinking about the fact that she's saying this to the young woman whom Joel raised like a daughter. As a result, she gets beaten to death with a pipe.
- The Legend of Zelda CD-i Games: Invoked at the end of Zelda: The Wand of Gamelon, when the vain Lady Alma believes Link has died, and subsequently scorns him. Luckily, he's just trapped inside her mirror, in which she's admiring her reflection.
Zelda: I wonder what happened to Link?
Lady Alma: Oh, he was a bore anyway! - Leyline Chronicles: In Avantis, Ashanti realizes the party likely killed Parcus, not knowing her ally killed himself in order to avoid being interrogated. Instead of mourning Parcus, Ashanti mocks him for being useless and unworthy of becoming a Leyan. After the party kills Ashanti, Belion states that both she and Parcus are too weak for the Ascension.
- Like a Dragon:
- In Yakuza: Like a Dragon, shortly after the death of their former boss, Nonomiya, Ichiban and company find themselves face-to-face with Bleach Japan, who had been harassing Nonomiya about running a Soapland before his death. Leader Kume was already openly cheering Nonomiya's death getting the place shuttered, but when confronted by Ichiban, he's quick to start insulting both them and Nonomiya, calling the latter filth and saying that he did the world a favour by taking his own life. Saeko and Ichiban respond with a slap and Megaton Punch respectively. The "peaceful protestors" respond by drawing bats. As Adachi points out, they were looking for violence all along. Cue battle.
- In Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth, during one of his Bucket List Memories, Kiryu reminisces about Jun Oda from Yakuza 0, noting that while he did teach him business etiquette Kiryu also bluntly calls him an asshole that he never liked. He also notes that said business etiquette is kind of useless for his current situation right now.
- Manafinder: Azain mocks Soren for getting killed by the Cataractadon. He later expresses glee over Lambda killing his "ally" Octavius, since he's annoyed by Octavius prioritizing his lust for combat over Illia's agenda.
- Mass Effect: Andromeda: In the post-game, Ryder finds an autopsy report on The Archon telling everyone to stop claiming their cause of death was "Pathfinder". Not because of any actual respect toward the individual, just because of their concern about the actual cause of death and what it might mean.
The jokes will cease. There are no monsters in my morgue.
- Metaphor: ReFantazio
- Early on in the game, Grius tries to kill Louis, but fails due to the royal magic preventing assassination attempts on candidates, which allows Louis to kill him easily. During his daughter Maria's Follower Bond events, some Louis supporters remark that Grius got what he deserved, with Maria in earshot.
- The late King Hythlodaeus V was once an idealist, but was broken by the loss of his wife and son, causing him to allow Sanctifex Forden, head of the Sanctist Church, to do as he pleased. Because of this, Louis, who is opposed to Forden, denounces the late king as a puppet of Forden at the king's own funeral. Likewise, Strohl, a heroic character and a member of the player's party, frequently complains about how the king ultimately failed to change anything for the better.
- Murdered: Soul Suspect: Baxter has absolutely zero qualms against calling the recently deceased Ronan a "dumb son of a bitch" and "more criminal than cop," the former to the face of Ronan's corpse.
- Persona:
- After Shinjiro, one of your True Companions from SEES, dies in Persona 3, the school holds a memorial service. During this, you overhear some of the students talking badly about the recently deceased and can choose to confront them.
- It takes place off-screen, but during the campout in Persona 4, Kanji remarks that he heard that the second-year students' homeroom teacher Morooka has been badmouthing the two women who were murdered at the start of the game.
- Many of the generic students you talk to following Morooka's death will talk about how Morooka was a creep and a jerk but didn't deserve to be killed, but one student in particular will say they don't understand why everyone is sympathetic to Morooka and will continue to say that he was a scumbag.
- Subverted in Persona 4: Dancing All Night. Kyoka Ochimizu describes Yuko Osada, an Idol Singer she managed who hanged herself, as "uniquely talentless," and some of the Investigation Team get offended. Ochimizu then clarifies that she didn't mean it as an insult- Yuko was determined enough to succeed despite her lack of talent, but her single-minded focus was her undoing.
- In Professor Layton and the Last Specter, Barde was so unpopular in Misthallery that people spoke ill about him after his death, greatly upsetting his children.
- Resident Evil 6 features two examples in regards to the late Albert Wesker:
- When she first meets Jake in Edonia, Carla has absolutely zero qualms against referring to Wesker as a "colossal imbecile" and a "fool." While talking to Wesker's own son, no less.
- Later, after Chris and Jake's confrontation near the end of their respective campaigns, Piers insists that Chris didn't have to confess to Jake because Wesker deserved to die and Chris did what he had to do to keep the world safe. Chris is quick to point out that, even after everything Wesker had done, he was still Jake's father and Jake had every right to know what happened to him. Notably, Chris doesn't shy away from telling the truth. The whole truth (at least in what little time they have), and Jake has no real connection with Wesker anyway, having been abandoned by him as a kid.
- In Saints Row 2, Shogo attacks Aisha's funeral as Johnny Gat wants a moment to bury her in peace so he can personally fight with him. Shogo disregards that and gets buried alive for his trouble.
- Shin Megami Tensei IV brings us the Ring of Gaea, a cult that promotes human strength and condemns weakness. So when Ring of Gaea member Kaga loses her life trying to stop a demon, a fellow member that you can talk to later flat out admits that she doesn't care for Kaga because Kaga was too weak to survive.
- Tales of Symphonia:
- In case you didn't already know he was a scumbag, Kvar insults Lloyd's dead parents to his face, calling them "worthless maggots" after explaining how he killed Lloyd's mother. Lloyd is understandably incensed, as is (for once) Kratos. Kratos gives his comments a Call-Back when he kills him during his Extreme Melee Revenge.
- After Kvar's death, a hologram of his colleague Rodyle appears and tells the deceased that he's going to take the rest of the data about the Manna Cannon, ending with Rodyle laughing at Kvar's untimely demise.
- In Thief: Deadly Shadows, Gamall killed Lauryl and stole her face to infiltrate the Keepers. She curses Lauryl when her disguise is revealed.
"No. No! Curse her sinking, rotting bones!"
- Clementine can potentially do this in The Walking Dead: The Final Season if the player picks certain choices. When she tells Violet how she knows Lilly, she can say that her father, Larry, was a racist asshole and Lilly defended everything he did. She can later tell Lilly that she always hated Larry ever since she first met him or that Lilly is an asshole just like he was.
- In World of Warcraft, Varian gets upset when Anduin comments on how the recently deceased Magni convinced himself that Moira was brainwashed to avoid having to admit that his desire for a male heir ended up driving her to the Dark Iron Dwarves. Anduin, unlike most of the examples on this page, respects Magni in general, but believes that "You can be an honorable man and still make mistakes."
- Xenoblade Chronicles 3: Mrs. Reid continues to rant about how she saw her daughter Shania as a pathetic embarrassment to the Reid family while others are grieving how far she fell after her second death. This nearly gets her throttled by Sena, Ghondor, and Monica all at once.
- Ace Attorney:
- In Ace Attorney Investigations: Miles Edgeworth, Manfred von Karma calls Byrne Faraday incompetent as a prosecutor before and after finding out that he's been murdered. Faraday's partner Tyrell Badd can barely contain his rage upon hearing this. In the sequel, Bronco Knight insults his dead fellow bodyguard Bastian Rook in the first case, and everyone else is horrified. Knight also turns out to be Rook's murderer.
- From Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney – Justice For All, we have Dr. Turner Grey, who, a few years ago, lost a large number of patients at his hospital, and blamed nurse Mimi Miney over it. The same night, Mimi was killed in a car accident (or rather, her sister Ini was; Mimi underwent facial reconstruction surgery and took on a new life impersonating Ini). Turner doesn't think any higher of Mimi despite her death and seeks out spirit channeling so he can force Mimi's soul to confess to her misdeeds. Unfortunately for him, he's murdered shortly thereafter by Mimi herself, who'd taken her sister's identity and didn't want the ruse to be revealed.
- In Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney – Spirit of Justice, Phoenix does this reluctantly with the recently deceased Archie Buff, mentioning that he was responsible for stealing various artifacts he intended to study since at the moment, Phoenix is blackmailed into trying to prove that his client Paul Atishon-Wimperson is the actual owner of the Founder's Orb.
- Danganronpa:
- Danganronpa 2: Goodbye Despair: Fuyuhiko asks the class why he should care about the death of "that fat bastard" when the Ultimate Imposter dies. Worse still, he refers to Mahiru as a bitch as he talks about his role in her death. Like every other unlikeable feature Fuyuhiko had prior to Chapter 3, it is fully dropped, as he grows to be full of sorrow over causing the death and admire her. In addition he's horrified and saddened by all the other deaths (especially Hiyoko's and Nekomaru's considering his relationship with those two).
- Danganronpa V3: Killing Harmony:
- Miu does this several times throughout the game. Her penchant for crude nicknames and insults is applied to living and dead classmates alike, such as when she posthumously refers to Angie as a "kooky fuckin' bitch" or comments on Ryoma's fate (his corpse was eaten by piranhas) by noting that "Tomorrow, he'll be fish shit." Just before the third class trial, she, if talked to outside the elevator, says that only "dipshits" have died up to this point.
- Downplayed with Kaito in Chapter 2. When Shuichi blames himself for the first culprit trying to kill the mastermind because of his deductions, Kaito replies that Kaede was responsible for her own actions and that he shouldn't feel responsible.
- In Chapter 3, Angie, as leader of the Student Council, receives a book that will supposedly revive one of the dead students. She says that the first victim is the only option, since the first two culprits are murderers and the second victim is partially responsible for the murder.
- In Chapter 4, Kokichi Oma repeatedly insults the victim, referring to them by various derogatory names while Shuichi declares that they're going too far. Ironically, the victim in question is Miu herself, who is later revealed to have tried to kill Kokichi before being murdered. Also Played With during the fourth Class Trial. When one of the survivors remarks that everyone probably would have been friends with the victim if not for the killing game, another three are quick to declare that they're wrong: they wouldn't have been friends with them anyway.
- In Chapter 5, even after Kokichi is identified as the victim, no one other than Keebo can sympathize with his death and his killer declares that he still hates him, even knowing that in the end, he wasn't as bad as he wanted to seem.
- Scarlet Hollow starts with the player character being invited to the funeral of their estranged aunt Pearlanne Scarlet. Once they arrive, it's clear that Pearlanne was hated throughout town for the way she ran the coal mine, and her death didn't change anyone's mind. Tabitha, Pearlanne's daughter, still has some amount of lingering respect for her, but still outright admits that she was a monster who actively sabotaged her life.
- Shinrai: Broken Beyond Despair
- Shortly after Momoko (apparently) commits suicide, Runa hesitantly says that it is bad to speak ill of the dead, but says that Runa had been a Clingy Jealous Girl who had gotten angry with Runa for talking with Hiro, Momoko's boyfriend. That said, Runa had genuinely wanted to be friends with Momoko, which was why she'd agreed to wear matching costumes. In a strange variation on this trope, Momoko is actually still alive at the time, having pretended to commit suicide to throw everyone off about the order of the deaths, but then actually hangs herself after killing Hiro and (possibly) Kotoba.
- At the end of the story, it's revealed that Hiro, the second victim, is the cause of everything that happened. He'd asked Kamen out while he was still dating Momoko, and then sent Kamen countless texts, causing Momoko to conclude that Hiro was cheating on her with Kamen, and driving her to murder. In the ending, Raiko narrates, "I knew one shouldn't talk bad about the dead... but that guy sure had been a scumbag." She's not alone in feeling that way, since no one mourns his death, unlike Momoko and even Kotoba (if the latter dies).
- In the prequel, GENBA no Kizuna, the victim, Kurou Mikazuki, a Loan Shark for the Dokuganryuu family, is on the receiving end of this from everyone who knew him. The protagonist, Keiichi Genba, provides some expositon on his charging people exorbitantly high interest rates with impunity due to the police's corruption, and it's vaguely implied that Keiichi has a history with the Dokuganryuu family. The four members of Raptor Pack Productions, who were in the same house as Kurou when he died, all despise him for what he did to them over the past several weeks, which they make clear to the investigators as the case goes on. The only reason they aren't even more upfront about how much they hate him is that they're initially trying to keep the fact that they had a loan from him (and thus a motive to murder him) under wraps. In the epilogue, Kagayaku and Kaleido, both members of the Dokuganryuu family, express contempt for how Kurou tried to assassinate their boss and only had to remove his eye as penance, even refraining from going after the imprisoned RPP members in part because they're grateful that Kurou's dead.
- Cirque Royale:
- As more comes out about the late King George, his family talks about him in a poorer and poorer light and his many flaws. Penelope is the major exception, often complaining when others around her speak ill of her father.
- King George called Claudette Sr. a deranged mime harlot in earshot of Kingston
after his failed audition. Claudette Sr. (along with her husband Charles Sr.) had been dead for several years at this point.
- Dumbing of Age:
- Granted, Mike wasn't dead yet, but at the time they thought he might be: during Amber and Joyce's Casual Danger Dialogue while they were in Blaine's speeding van, Amber laments that the last thing she said to Mike (more specifically, her Amber persona and not her Amazi-Girl persona) was nothing because she had been trying to avoid him, and that he might be dead now and this would be it. Joyce says she doesn't want to speak ill, but this is Mike they were talking about. He would probably have just said a Your Mom joke before he died. (And he did.) Later, when Joyce reveals her mixed feelings about Mike dying, Hank gently suggests she say he didn't deserve this. She snarks back that sometimes he deserved it.
- Danny's bad habit of saying what he's thinking bites him in the ass when he says out loud, in front of Ethan, that maybe everyone would be better off if Mike did pass on. The resulting fallout between them still affects them to this day.
- When Blaine 'commits suicide', Amber finds she can only find relief that his reign of terror is over and that she didn't have to be the one that killed him. Walky, who had been one of Blaine's kidnap victims, also expressed his hope that Blaine was burning in hell.
Dina: So condolences can be issued in high-five form?
Amber: Okay, but don't let my mom see. - In The Order of the Stick, aside from Nale's girlfriend Sabine, Elan is the only person who feels bad when Tarquin kills Nale after the latter finally pushes his luck too far. Haley and Tarquin, not so much. Haley says that Nale was a terrible human being who deserved to die. Tarquin is even harsher, coldly dismissing Nale, his own son, as nothing more than a B-villain that Elan has outgrown. Laurin Shattersmith, another old friend of Tarquin's and Malack's (the latter of whom Nale killed not long before his death), merely says "good riddance" and Disintegrates Nale's corpse to make him Deader than Dead.
- Shortpacked!: Amber only attends her abusive father's funeral so she can get emotional closure by seeing his corpse (and also to let her half-brother Faz see his father once). When prompted to speak about her dead father, she tells the other funeralgoer in no uncertain terms how she feels about him
. Meanwhile, her fiance Mike shows up in a Hawaiian shirt and a party hat, and flips off her father's corpse.
- Mike: Later, jerkhole, I'm fucking your daughter.
- Suicide for Hire: According to the Social Darwinist Hunter:
"We're not making light of your feelings. I am sorry you lost your friend. Hell, I'll go so far as to say he shouldn't have died. But if they're idiots in life, with an idiotic demise, they should not be revered as anything else in death."
- Toon Hole: Played With. In one strip, a man fakes his death to hear other people say good things about him. When the people who show up at his funeral have only bad things to say ("dumb hair"), it drives him to suicide. At his real funeral, people only have good things to say ("great hair").
- Unsounded: Lemuel and their captain only have disparaging things to say about Riker’s impulsivity bloodlust and rapist urges after he gets killed. Granted this is while the rest of the Lions are carrying out the systematic rape of the women in Grenzlan.
- In Cinematic Excrement, Smeghead discusses this in his review of Bolero. His specific example is director John Derek cheating on his then-wife with the woman who would later become his fourth wife Bo Derek while she was still 16 and living in Europe until she was 18 so he wouldn't be charged with statutory rape.
"Death does not magically make dead men good. It only makes them dead."
- Played for Drama in Escape the Night. After Andrea Brooks is killed in a gas chamber, Justine, who was supposed to save her, talks trash about her. Everyone in the group is shocked. Soon after they discover that one among them is a mole. Andrea's best friend Timothy immediately blames Justine, with only Joey standing up for her. The next episode sees most of the group murder Justine in cold blood.
- Anytime a guest does this, it’s a good sign they are next. The only character who gets away with it is Alpha Bitch Nikita.
- When Pinkie Pie died in Rainbow Dash Presents Bittersweet, almost all the attendees (all five of them) indulged in this: Rarity gloated that she called it that Pinkie would kill herself, Twilight expressed disbelief at how Pinkie died ("What is this, the dark ages? We have medicine!"). Applejack concludes that Pinkie died out of spite, and Rainbow Dash made it all about her. Fluttershy might have been the only respectful attendee there, but we'll never know since, per Pinkie's last will and testament, she was drowned out by dubstep.
- When Levin died in We Are Our Avatars, Michelle, Nova, and Longram openly criticized him. According to Nova, he was "a pain in the ass to deal with, posed friendly fire risks, did not stop to think, was way too quick to extend the phallic symbol that was his weapon, and did not understand the concept of humility".
- Aqua Teen Hunger Force: In "Video Ouija", after Shake feeds himself to piranhas in his attempt to become a ghost.
Frylock: Meatwad... Master Shake is dead.
Meatwad: That's good. - On Beast Wars, when the Maximals believe Rattrap has been killed they each have fond words of their fallen friend while only addressing his flaws in the politest way possible like saying he was "difficult at times." Dinobot, however, is far more frank:
Dinobot: I won't disgrace his memory with lies! He was a stinking, omnivorous pestilence! But... in some perverse way... I will miss him.
- Beavis and Butt-Head: The original finale had everyone at school thinking the titular characters were dead, which they openly celebrated (with the teachers even holding a party in response). The only ones who mourned their loss were Mr. Van Driessen and Stewart.
- In The Boondocks episode "Wingmen", Robert's former friend Moe Jackson, whom he had fallen out with long ago, has now passed away, and he left a video will saying that he wanted Robert to deliver his eulogy. With reluctance, Robert agrees. At the funeral, he's given a script Moe had prepared beforehand. Robert starts reading it out, only to find out that it talks about how awesome Moe was, making Robert say that he was sexy, paid his rent numerous times, and so on. Robert gets fed up and tells the funeral-goers the honest truth: that Moe was an asshole who only asked for Robert so that he could make a fool of him again. The other attendees, who had previously expressed an incredibly rose-tinted view of Moe, suddenly had an about-face and felt free to agree with Robert.
- In Gargoyles, seventeen years after Duncan's death, Macbeth still has no qualms about describing him as "an evil man who deserved his fate." To Duncan's son, Canmore.
- Gravity Falls: When Soos' grandmother mentions going to heaven, Soos suggests she would reunite with her deceased husband. She calmly insists that she will not, and then looks downward.
- In Hey Arnold!, at Dino Spumoni's funeral (Dino was actually Faking the Dead), his close friend only talked about how Dino was a jerk.
- Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (2012): In "Requiem", while attacking Karai and setting fire to the Mutanimals' hideout, The Shredder (who had just mutated himself into The Super Shredder) mocks Tang Shen's death right to her face, boasting that it's fitting that she should die just as her mother did. It just goes to show how far off the deep end Shredder's gone, especially since his love for Tang Shen, as well as his jealousy that she chose Hamato Yoshi/Splinter over him, was his primary reason for turning to evil in the first place.

