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Post-Grunge (trope)

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"I think the grunge-lite movement came not from bands so much as record labels. I think the record labels said, 'Hmm... Let's have more of that. Let's find bands who we can encourage to write songs that have a little bit of angst and a whole lot of melody.'"
Jon Weiderhorn, Metal Evolution episode 7, "Grunge"

Post-grunge is a "derivative" of Grunge music that became popular in the late '90s. The genre is primarily marked by its use of yarling vocals, downtuned guitars and Hard Rock/Punk aesthetics commonly associated with Grunge, but removing the more unusual songwriting choices and less commercially-friendly influences from Hardcore Punk and Noise Rock that many original grunge artists were known for, in addition to much more mid-tempo songs. In other words, taking the more commercially viable qualities of Grunge while cutting out its oddity and offending harshness, and building more traditional songs out of it than Grunge. Yeah, this genre doesn't go over well with the underground music scene. Its popularity has occasionally caused it to receive blame for Alternative Rock losing its experimental qualities, as the genre's existence contributed to the numerous bands previously snatched up by major labels after Nirvana's breakthrough being unceremoniously dumped.note 

The genre has been known to use the more traditional rock structures often rejected by their predecessors in Grunge, modernized with more up-front, brooding lyrics. In this sense, the movement could be considered (ironically) the Spiritual Successor to Hair Metal, whose pop beats and polished production brought heavy rock to a widespread audience (Post-grunge is also well known for its "soul-searching" ballads). Indeed, many post-grunge bands take more influence from Poison, Cinderella and Whitesnake than Nirvana; post-grunge players generally think of the old grunge-greats as idols/heroes rather than true influences, with more of an interest in writing their own material in that particular style (stylistic emulation) over combining many influences (the subtle difference between a direct or indirect influence from grunge can affect how well-received a post-grunge band is, both critically and to their audience). Post-Grunge tends to focus more on conventional lyrical structure than the music itself, and though the genre is rooted primarily in Alternative Rock, make no mistake, post-grunge was tailor-made for the mainstream (with even some underground songs of the genre being used in big media franchises of the time), and is what helped Alternative become rooted as 'Mainstream' music. note  In essence, it took no influence from the ethos of Grunge, but took every influence from its sound without the same ideology.

The rise of Post-grunge has gone to dominate and even embed itself in the standardly recognized sound of Hard Rock as most people can hear, creating the assumption that post-grunge is, along with Pop Punk and mainstream Emo, one of the only forms of modern rock. This has had the flip-side effect of some of the more straight-forward, contemporary rock groups note  being lumped in with post-grunge, despite largely having no alternative qualities in their musicnote . There is a bit of cross-over involved as well: Saliva, Shinedown, 3 Doors Down and Daughtry like to dabble in/pay tribute to "regular" hard rock when they can, adding to this confusion. It seems the only way to escape this is to play very old-fashioned retro-rock, such as Garage Rock revival, new Blues Rock, neo-psychedelia, traditional-metal revival, or modernized Power Pop.

After dominating mainstream rock music in the late '90s and '00s, post-grunge eventually wore out its welcome in The New '10s. Few new bands are playing post-grunge anymore, largely moving onto straightforward Alternative Rock or Pop Rock. While a few bands are still doing well on Mainstream Rock radio (usually because they added elements of other genres into their music) and a minor revival has taken place among remixers of Dragon Ball franchise songs (due to action anime fans generally liking many kinds of rock and metal with few of the hierarchies followed by other rock fans, and the Texan dub's original soundtrack being inspired by it at points with actual underground post-grunge songs that were a rarity at the time used in the films' dub soundtrack), everyone else retains small to large cult followings at most or are completely unknown now.

Sub-Trope of Post-Somethingism (a movement/genre that arises from the evolution of the previous one's conventions).


Bands typified as Post-grunge:

First-wave Post-grunge:

New Millennium style post-grunge:

Post-Grunge / Alt-Metal crossover:

Some post-grunge bands take more after tool and Alice in Chains than Pearl Jam or Nirvana, while some like to add a heavier edge to their sound as not to be lumped with their softer post-grunge contemporaries while maintaining their alternative status. Thus, the overlap with Alternative Metal was inevitable. Note that all or most post-grunge bands fall under the Hard Rock umbrella (a genre related to alt-metal and Heavy Metal}), but post-grunge bands with similarities to metal aren't necessarily an example of alt-metal. Given their similar pop-leanings, normally when a post-grunge band makes their sound heavier they become nu-metal rather than pure alt-metal; achieving the sound of alt-metal requires a distinctly guitar-driven, alternative rock approach with less of the aggression, rap elements and simplicity associated with nu-metalnote . In other words, bands like Papa Roach, who practiced more standard-fare nu-metal early in their career only to switch to post-grunge later, wouldn't be an example of post-grunge/alt-metal crossover. Post-grunge/alt-metal crossover bands melodically tend to follow more in line with classic grunge, Alternative Rock and NWOBHM. They are generally much more acclaimed and respected than regular post-grunge. These include:


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