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The common wisdom of the community is that you are not irreplaceable and that everything will get done just as well if individual contributors leave or are banned. This wisdom is, in my experience, wrong and dangerous.

2024 example

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This section was written in July 2024, and reflects the way areas were structured at the time. The same general concepts should still hold at any time, but who does what has of course shifted slightly since.

Consider what were to happen if I (User:Pppery) were to stop editing Wikipedia, either of my own volition or if I were to get desysopped and banned:

Every regular editor's activities have this iceberg structure, where some of what they do is working toward a common and well-staffed pool, and various other parts are obscure and unwanted personal itches, and various parts are obscure but wanted thankless tasks that nobody else happens to have the knowledge and ability to do.

And you often don't know what that last bullet point of the iceberg for another editor is. From my experience as an onlooker or occasional participant, when the community moves for a regular editor to be banned, or for an active admin to be desysopped for what seems to me like relatively minor misconduct, they don't seem to realize this, and how they will often unwittingly cause important neglected tasks to be undone.

October 2024 update

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So, I resigned adminship in August 2024. Since then:

  • There have been several complaints on Discord about history merges not being done. However, Category:Candidates for history merging has eight entries, with the oldest one being three days old. That's actually better than I expected it would be.
  • MediaWiki talk:Spam-whitelist has an open request dating back 6 weeks, and several even older requests were only handled very recently. I admittedly wasn't great at responding promptly to everything in my time there, but I would have approved the request in days at most.
  • WP:Categories for discussion has reached the point where there is only one regular closer, and pretty much every discussion in which they're involved ends up getting listed at WP:Closure requests
  • And that's only admin tasks, and things I can easily point to as not being done. There's a lot of stuff that I probably would have done if I had remained an admin that I don't even know about

The spam whitelist is a particularly striking situation - it was originally being handled near-singlehandedly by User:Beetstra, and then when their activity significantly decreased requests started being archived unanswered, despite the archiving period being increased twice. While I eventually stepped up to the plate there (despite arguably breaching a promise I made in my RfA to stay away from content-related actions), we should try to avoid intentionally introducing that sort of close call.

February 2025 update

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Witness the size of the backlog at WP:Files for discussion, which is rapidly approaching a month. This is something that Fastily used to handle, and the chaos is, in an entirely predictable manner, building up.

I poked my head in that area again in early April, and found that in the entire period from Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2025 March 1 to Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2025 March 31 the same admin had closed all but two of the closed discussions (ignoring speedy deletions, withdrawals, and other trivial cases).

In the wisdom of another person:

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Every "copyright admin" has a real life, we can't be here 24/7. Diannaa and MER-C have done so much work in the area for years and years, and it is completely unacceptable. Diannaa has been like Atlas holding up the clouds for so long, and it is not healthy. Dianna's done 87,609 reviews at Copypatrol, and several thousand other reviews off of various requests. She's been the go to person for copyright issues for so long, it's basically a policy to ask Diannaa about your copyright issues. There's so much shit going on, how is it even fair to expect Diannaa to keep up so extensively with a user who is not getting it? But don't worry, DanCherek can take Diannaa's place as the person who carries the massive weight of vetting current edits for copyright issues- he's done 1,275 reviews in the last 30 days. That's not fucking fair for him at all! We can't let this shit continue like that! If MER-C stops editing, the workflow at CCI will face serious issues, since he's the only one with access to the script that removes not copyright-able edits from the the contributor surveys- if he just stopped editing one day, what would we do? Other editors in the area- Hut 8.5, Sphilbrick, and Wizardman, just for example, have been around for over a decade, and despite the work they've done, it just doesn't end. If any of the mentioned users stopped editing, there would be serious issues for the entire site. That sort of system does not fucking work!


— Moneytrees, Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive336#We cannot sweep copyright issues under the rug any longer, August 2021 (final emphasis mine)

Past incidents where one person leaving threw a process into disarray

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(This list is very incomplete, other editors are welcome to add more entries)