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Q1: Which name is best: ISIS, ISIL, Daesh, Islamic State or something else?
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The discussion that resulted in the current name Islamic State was held in August–September 2021. The decision followed WP:Commonname section of WP:Article titles. This question has been raised over 40 times on the talk page, without any proposal other than the September 2021 and August 2013 discussions resulting in a page move. Now archived, those discussions can be read here and searched here. Past names, both used and considered, have included: "Islamic State of Iraq and Syria", "Islamic State of Iraq and (al-)Sham", "Islamic State of Iraq and Greater Syria", "Islamic State", "The Islamic State", "Islamic State (Middle East)" and "Islamic State (Organisation)". |
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In the section "The group has perpetrated terrorist massacres in territories outside of its control, such as the November 2015 Paris attacks, the 2024 Kerman bombings in Iran, the 2024 Crocus City Hall attack in Russia, the Hanukkah massacre of Jews on Bondi beach in Australia and the knifing of Jews outside a British synagogue on Yom Kippur" on the introductory page, "the Hanukkah massacre of Jews on Bondi beach in Australia and the knifing of Jews outside a British synagogue on Yom Kippur" should be changed to "the 2025 Bondi Beach shooting and the 2025 Manchester synagogue attack", assuming that these two are the attacks being referred to here. Pineways (talk) 08:41, 5 February 2026 (UTC)
Done Thank you! Lova Falk (talk) 10:44, 5 February 2026 (UTC)
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Change the ideology from Islamic Statism to Daeshism
"Islamic Statism" is problematic since be misinterpreted as an Islamic variant of Statism or as advocating for the concept of a form of government based on sharia law. Also, "Daeshism" already used by multiple sources[1][2][3]. ManU9827 (talk) 06:32, 22 April 2026 (UTC)
- The first and second links to sources you posted are not working. Could you please provide the correct links? Day Creature (talk) 15:33, 22 April 2026 (UTC)
- I took them from the Ideology of the Islamic State page, The second source is deprecated, so ignore it, and the first may only be accessible from Iranian IPs? In any case the term "Islamic Statism" is problematic for the reasons mentioned before and since there are no sources which use it (suggesting its a neologism that originates from the ideology page). ManU9827 (talk) 17:13, 22 April 2026 (UTC)
Not done: You can make this change yourself at Template:Islamic State infobox. Day Creature (talk) 18:03, 26 April 2026 (UTC)
- I took them from the Ideology of the Islamic State page, The second source is deprecated, so ignore it, and the first may only be accessible from Iranian IPs? In any case the term "Islamic Statism" is problematic for the reasons mentioned before and since there are no sources which use it (suggesting its a neologism that originates from the ideology page). ManU9827 (talk) 17:13, 22 April 2026 (UTC)
References
- ^ "The Future of Modern Terrorism Daeshism in the Middle East and the World". Political and InternationalResearches Quarterly. 1 (38): 211. March 2019.
- ^ "Death of Baghdadi Not End of Daeshism: Iran - Politics news". Tasnim News Agency.
- ^ "Daeshism still exists, not ended by al-Baghdadi's death". Tehran Times. October 28, 2019.
Improper wording for attacks perpetrated by ISIS
[edit]In regards to the following section:
The group has perpetrated terrorist massacres in territories outside of its control, such as the November 2015 Paris attacks, the 2024 Kerman bombings in Iran, the 2024 Crocus City Hall attack in Russia, the 2025 Bondi Beach shooting in Australia and 2025 Manchester synagogue attack on Yom Kippur.
I believe this is incorrect and misleading. While the Paris, Kerman and Crocus City Hall attacks are obviously ISIS perpetrated, there is currently nothing indicating the Bondi beach shooting and Manchester attack were “perpetrated” by ISIS themselves. In fact, in the source used for the sentence the title quite literally says “inspired” referring to the Bondi attack. While both attacks were obviously inspired, these two attacks should be removed or replaced. Aussienerddawg (talk) 05:26, 25 April 2026 (UTC)
- Good point, thank you, I read the source and changed the text. Lova Falk (talk) 16:37, 4 May 2026 (UTC)
- On second thought, I deleted it - the lead is big enough as it is. Lova Falk (talk) 16:44, 4 May 2026 (UTC)
Leade
[edit]in leade, replace "militant" with "terrorist" with blue link to "Terrorism". Stop the whitewashing of terrorist organizations! El Ouwet el Lebnani (talk) 13:22, 13 June 2026 (UTC)
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To add Bruxelles Bombings to the external operations. ~2026-38540-94 (talk) 08:25, 7 July 2026 (UTC)
- corrections: to add them to the text: The group has perpetrated terrorist massacres in territories outside of its control, such as the November 2015 Paris attacks, the 2024 Kerman bombings in Iran, the 2024 Crocus City Hall attack in Russia" due to the fact that the attack was carried out by the surviving members of the 13 November cell after the belgian police raids, and claimed by isis. . ~2026-38540-94 (talk) 08:28, 7 July 2026 (UTC)
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want made. Day Creature (talk) 18:48, 7 July 2026 (UTC)
Requested move 10 July 2026
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Islamic State → ISIS (terrorist organization) – ISIS is WP:COMMONNAME but there is also a goddess named Isis so this name clarifies it is about the Islamic terrorists. ~2026-38391-81 (talk) 18:51, 10 July 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose. This article has come up for RM many, many times, and I urge all editors to read the 2021 discussion that resulted in the article's current title, which I believe still holds up today. The current nomination cites no reliable sources and should probably be withdrawn unless an actual well-researched argument is presented. 162 etc. (talk) 22:09, 10 July 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose per MOS:TERRORIST. We do not say terrorist in wikivoice, ever. PARAKANYAA (talk) 08:34, 11 July 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose - ISIS is only used after the full name (Islamic State) is mentioned beforehand. Militant.Insurgency (talk) 09:34, 11 July 2026 (UTC)
- OPPOSE - Islamic State is its name, so that's what we should use. "Terrorist"/"terrorism" etc are ontologically incoherent concepts, are emotionally charged, and are subjective and thus subject to perspective bias. Must be avoided at all times.
- Plus Islamic State is the name, not "ISIS" anyway. LevatorScapulaeSyndrome (talk) 20:52, 11 July 2026 (UTC)
- Neutral - ISIS (terrorist organization) has something that is not necessary, but I would come to a conclusion that ISIS (organization) is a better title to suit this case. It adheres to WP:COMMONNAME, and has a fair disamiguation parameter. IShowSammy (discussion | contributions) 00:51, 14 July 2026 (UTC)
- Oppose per MOS:TERRORIST. ISIS (organization) also fails WP:COMMONNAME because there is no clear common name, with the group being primarily known by multiple names: the target, ISIL, and Daesh. Raskuly 🐰 01:25, 14 July 2026 (UTC)
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