Talk:ContraPoints
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ContraPoints' Birth Name
[edit]The article doesn't give ContraPoints' legal name or gender at birth. These are historical facts that should be included in the family life section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:7000:7600:2b67:61f7:f48d:aa23:65a9 (talk) 12:57, August 24, 2022 (UTC)
- Not done. See MOS:GENDERID and MOS:DEADNAME. –RoxySaunders 🏳️⚧️ (💬 • 📝) 17:59, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
- As far as I am aware, the channel has been called ContraPoints since birth and, being a YouTube channel, has no gender of its own. ;-) --DanielRigal (talk) 19:11, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
- Nonsense. The channel is clearly a woman, because it's never once been searching through a drawer for an hour trying to find something, only to have its wife, sister or mother walk over and retrieve that item from the very front of that drawer with an arch look.
- Indeed, I once went looking through all of Wynn's videos for one particular skit I remembered, spending over an hour searching before the very first video I checked started playing on its own and played that very skit. Obviously, the channel is a woman. (I'm not being serious, as I don't believe this is a serious request from the IP. At least not one worth taking seriously.) Happy (Slap me) 20:41, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
- It is a serious request. I agree that the article is about the YouTube channel, not the content creator but since there is no separate article for Wynn, this biographical info should be included somewhere. A person's history is very important for context. For example the Caitlyn Jenner article begins as "Caitlyn Marie Jenner (born William Bruce Jenner; October 28, 1949)..." 2603:7000:7600:2B67:B595:D30B:62E1:623E (talk) 14:03, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
- A small, very small remark, RoxySaunders. MOS:GENDERID and MOS:DEADNAME are one and the same guideline. -The Gnome (talk) 13:53, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for the pertinent and necessary correction. Roxy from 2022 will be pleased to learn this. –RoxySaunders 🏳️⚧️ (💬 • 📝) 15:12, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- As far as I am aware, the channel has been called ContraPoints since birth and, being a YouTube channel, has no gender of its own. ;-) --DanielRigal (talk) 19:11, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
- The Dead name policy is absurd. You can't wipe away history because of some socio-political agenda. You're not helping your cause this way. 2603:7000:7600:2B67:B595:D30B:62E1:623E (talk) 14:05, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
- Writing about people under their correct names while respecting their right to keep private matters private is not
"some socio-political agenda"
, it is basic human decency. If you have a problem with the policy then you can discuss that on the policy's talk page. (I'm not saying that you should, only that you can. It certainly won't do you any good.) This conversation is off-topic and we will not be discussing it further here. DanielRigal (talk) 15:42, 26 August 2022 (UTC) - What history? We don't know Wynn's birth name because it's not public information. Wikipedia is a tertiary source and only publishes information that has already been published in reliable secondary sources. It's no more public than her Social Security number, nor is our omission of her Social Security number any more or less a censorship of history. — Bilorv (talk) 21:33, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
- Well if it's not public information then this is a moot point. 2603:7000:7600:2B67:F490:48AA:73CA:E9FB (talk) 22:56, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
- "wipe away history" Ok time to publish your full address and bank card information online I guess, we wouldn't want to wipe away history Csillagkohó (talk) 12:25, 30 May 2025 (UTC)
- Writing about people under their correct names while respecting their right to keep private matters private is not
- The question arises: If, supposedly, Wynn's birth name, becomes public information, should it be included in an article about Wynn's YouTube channel? Methinks not, on account mainly of article focus. -The Gnome (talk) 13:53, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- Agree! Likeanechointheforest (talk) 18:50, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
- How does that make sense? Ofc it should be. Caitlyn Jenner's article includes her birth name. 216.212.99.220 (talk) 03:40, 19 June 2025 (UTC)
- Per WP:DEADNAME above, she wasn't notable under that name while Caitlyn Jenner was. — Czello (music) 06:59, 19 June 2025 (UTC)
Removing section about Twitter drama
[edit]Because it's not notable. See precedents in other YouTubers' Wiki pages. It takes up a really undue amount of space on the page, especially because the sources themselves basically seem to say that the controversy is undue. Transfeminine people are disproportionately scrutinized, and bigotry is not a reason to claim notability on Wikipedia. I think that if anyone wants to add this section back to the page, we should discuss it here first. Likeanechointheforest (talk) 18:48, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
- I think it merits inclusion, due to the coverage, but it is somewhat overblown. It was rather a storm in a teacup but it was a notable one. If we can slim it down a little then that would be good. Also it doesn't belong in the Personal Life section. I'll move it, without any change to the content, now. DanielRigal (talk) 21:04, 3 November 2024 (UTC)
- I believe that it warrants inclusion too and will add the rationale that her "Cancelling" video got significant of coverage, a lot more than most of her individual videos, and this resulted from the incident (twitter-drama though it was). I also agree that the section could be shortened though.--MattMauler (talk) 03:38, 4 November 2024 (UTC)
“Is a Trans American YouTuber”
[edit]There is no reason to mention she is trans in the opening sentence like that. Other trans women’s Wikipedia pages don’t have it in the first sentence like that, also grammatically it sounds weird, it makes it sound like “trans american” is one thing. ~2025-43007-38 (talk) 07:19, 25 December 2025 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 6 March 2026
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there is an "and" missing in the very first sentence of the article Andrewjbacker (talk) 07:00, 6 March 2026 (UTC)
Missing awards
[edit]Wynn was voted “Youtuber of the Year” in Papermag’s Break the Internet Awards 2019
https://www.papermag.com/the-break-the-internet-awards-winners-2019#rebelltitem28
Also, she was a finalist for “Youtuber of the Year” in the 2020 Shorty Awards
https://shortyawards.com/category/12th/youtuber-of-the-year https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/win-youtuber-2020-shorty-awards-011552151.html WulfricBrian (talk) 18:59, 2 July 2026 (UTC)
Done Thanks! -- irn (talk) 15:51, 3 July 2026 (UTC)
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